Rakion

[juegalol]

VISTA USERS READ

As many of you know by now, Windows Vista has several problems running the different types of hacks that are public to this site. Me and my good friend found out how to make most of the hacks found here to become compatabile with the usage of Windows Vista. (Disclaimer: We found this out in May, and so far (to my knowledge), I have been the first to post the Vista solution in this forum). The reason I am making this thread is because many of you out there do not enjoy using the search feature of this forum, and/or just skip through my posts in the Rakion section, so I read the same questions over and over again: "OMG THIS HACK DONT WORK FOR VISTA!" etc...


And so now, I reveal to everyone here the magic secret to making hacks compatabile (and which ones cannot be made compatabile) with Windows Vista. I will organize this thread in the following way:



I. Trainers
A. If run on Vista without compatability...
B. How to make it compatabile...
II. DLLs/Injec-Tors
A. If run on Vista without compatability...
B. How to make it compatabile...
III. UCEs
A. What happens when you try to use Vista to run UCE's (or the Cheat Engine+Bypass combo)



Lets Begin.

I. Trainers
A. A trainer is one of those things that looks like this (or something to this degree):


(Pic of VampirePrince's Nak Trainer)

With trainers that are run normally (without compatability), you will find that if you start rakion, you CANNOT activate any part of the trainer. If you press the hotkeys while GG loads, they will not work or activate.

B. In order to make trainers work for windows vista, right click on the shortcut to the trainer (or the actual trainer icon), and follow these steps:

1. Right click on the trainer's icon (the .exe)
2. Click "Properties"
3. Click on the "Compatability" tab
4. Checkmark the box that says "Run as Administrator"
5. Press "OK"

Now, you should be able to use your trainer normally, and the hotkeys should be enabled.



II. DLLs/Injec-Tors
A. A dll injector (mostly seen with Sean's hacks on rakion) is something that injects a dll (for a lack of better words) into a program. When the DLL injector is used with vista without compatability turned on, you will experience something like this:

(Credits to "Salecko" for the SS, as I was too lazy to PrintScrn it myself)


B. In order to fix this problem, you do the same thing as you would to a trainer (which was mentioned above):

1. Right click on the injector's icon (the .exe)
2. Click "Properties"
3. Click on the "Compatability" tab
4. Checkmark the box that says "Run as Administrator"
5. Press "OK"

Now, your Injec-Tor should run perfectly fine and shouldnt have any Vista-related problems.





III. UCE's
A. Unfortunately, I have some bad news for you guys when it comes to Undetected Cheat Engines for Vista. As far as I know so far, 100% of UCE's DO NOT work on vista. From personal experience on several computers, this is what i have found out:

If you run UNDETECTED cheat engines on vista, you will get a "KitAttach Process" error if not run under compatability.

If you choose to try out the compatability method that I stated above in the previous two sections, you will open the cheat engine normally for the first time. However, once you close the engine and try to open the engine a second time, you will get the Blue Screen Of Death (yes, that actually is a specific screen). It will look like this:



And yes, that IS a bad screen to get..as it means a fatal error has occured, and it will try to fix your computer, then restart it if successful. (Chances are, it will recover and restart, as i have not had any experience having a non-succesful recover after a Blue Screen Of Death).

The REASON this happens is because for Undetected Cheat Engines, the hiding mechanism of the engine that is used to bypass GameGuard hides in the kernel of the computer. With Vista's new security upgrade, the kernel of the computer will restrict access from ANY third-party programs. Yes, your UCE is indeed a third party program.

NOTE:This entire time, I have stated that UNDETECTED Cheat Engines will not work with Vista. This DOES NOT include REGULAR Cheat Engines. Regular Cheat Engines that ARE detected will work. The best example is Cheat Engine 5.3, from ***. That engine is detected by default, but will work with Vista. Therefore, if you have an unprotected game, you can easily hack into that with Cheat Engine 5.3. Meanwhile, for Undetected Cheat Engines, as stated above, the hiding mechanisms to bypass GameGuard or any other gaming protection will hide in the kernel. However, the Kernel will reject the Undetected Cheat Engine, and you will end up getting the Blue Screen of Death.

However, there is a slight hope for you Vista users in the future for UCE's, because Vista Service Pack 1 is coming out late 2007, and this service package is supposed to increase the vista/XP compatability. More information will be given when Vista SP 1 is actually released.




Well, I hope you have enjoyed reading this thread of mine. If you have any other vista problems, feel free to comment and I will try to see if there is a possible solution. Also, if other types of common/popular hacks come out that arent normally compatabile with Vista, I will update this thread with the new information.




Please thank/rep me if I have helped in ANY way. You're welcome in advance.

[joriannn]

I've seen a lot of Vista people whining about hacks, so you got my support to let this become a sticky

[Spikeman666]

I'm currently reading over this and looking for problems/ideas or w/e...

so far I can't see the Pick [broken link] to the Blue Screen of death.

I'm still going to think this over and look at this to see if there is any corrections that need to be made first, or w/e add ons.....but if I'm correct some UCEs can work for Vista like KasperSky's uce? or w/e cause he started it so it would work for vista users (source code but not currently any working UCEs with Vista) - if I'm correct, not 100%sure yet

Before I sticky this or w/e I'm going to look this over and I'll decide where this should go, but I'm going to look it over for now.

-btw I'm changing the title

[juegalol]

ok no problem. Yeah, im currently looking for a fix to that link to the blue screen of death. I used copy/paste on the first 2 pics, but the third one is from a different site, so i used the picture url loading. I'm going to look for another way to load that picture.


And about the UCE's, yeah, engines CAN work for vista, but most people mostly make them using (and mainly for) those with windows XP Service Pack 2.

Especially the public ones, like project x, sora, moonlight, and DaEngine. Even revolution engine from back then as well.

[joriannn]

Give me the link via pm and I'll correct it

[+Anubis]

this is gonna be useful for Vista users.

[joriannn]

All right fixed the picture, you did http:// twice

[juegalol]

haha no wonder it didnt work , thanks very much =]


if anyone has something they would like me to add or mention, or just general comments, feel free to post them.